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NEWS: Hollywood's Tiger & Bunny Film Moves Forward With Global Road, Akiva Goldsman


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Gemnist



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:04 am Reply with quote
Tiger and Bunny is an anime that I could see working in a live-action environment. But Akiva Goldsman? Yeah, prepare for this movie to be either really bad or really controversial.
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Yippie, the guy behind the awful Lost in Space movie.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:19 am Reply with quote
Really curious how this is going to turn out. There will most likely be a whitewashing controversy. I could see them switching Kotetsu and Barnaby's races OR making Barnaby the main character instead. It would be nice if they kept it exactly as in the original, but I'm not really getting my hopes up.
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I've only watched a couple episodes of Tiger and Bunny, but even still I'm completely salty about the idea of making a Hollywood adaptation. The original was targeted at fujoushi, and yet I'm one hundred percent convinced that anyone adapting it for Hollywood will make it targeted at men, and not even notice that very intentional subtext. Because Hollywood doesn't make big budget things for women, and superheroes are always for boys anyways. /sarcasm
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:56 am Reply with quote
I'm crossing fingers and toes, please be good.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:56 am Reply with quote
meruru wrote:
I've only watched a couple episodes of Tiger and Bunny, but even still I'm completely salty about the idea of making a Hollywood adaptation. The original was targeted at fujoushi, and yet I'm one hundred percent convinced that anyone adapting it for Hollywood will make it targeted at men, and not even notice that very intentional subtext. Because Hollywood doesn't make big budget things for women, and superheroes are always for boys anyways. /sarcasm


It was for fujoushi??? Here I kept thinking it was just a 15+ target audience, no gender aimed at.

I don't see why people think superheroes are for men. Weren't they originally for women to begin with? Plus, Hollywood should know that a lot of females are into superheroes and always have been. There's a large audience for both men and women.
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meruru



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:11 am Reply with quote
capt_bunny wrote:
It was for fujoushi??? Here I kept thinking it was just a 15+ target audience, no gender aimed at.


Tbh, I'm not sure if you're joking or not. But for any that are actually confused, from what I've heard/the episodes I've seen, people who aren't fujoushi could like it because it has other appeal besides the slash, but that also its pretty slashy between Barnaby and Kotetsu, to the point that it absolutely has to be intentional, which is why I say the main target was fujoushi.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:11 am Reply with quote
meruru wrote:
The original was targeted at fujoushi, and yet I'm one hundred percent convinced that anyone adapting it for Hollywood will make it targeted at men, and not even notice that very intentional subtext.


Not intentionally targeted. The original audience was middle aged men around Kotetsu's age--it's been theorized this is why the only merchandise planned from the beginning was that single toy figure of Kotetsu--but the audience that ended up making it a huge hit was the female audience.

T&B is an important step in the female audience's rise to recent prominence, but let's not rewrite history.
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meruru



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:29 am Reply with quote
I'm kind of skeptical of the claim it's unintentional when the show included things like a (admittedly brief) shot of one princess carrying the other, but okay. Even if it wasn't intentionally made for fujoushi, that's the audience they ended up with, so it just seems to me sad that the Hollywood adaptation will almost certainly not be made with that audience in mind, and I'm not even a fujoushi at all. The reason I stopped watching was actually because it seemed so obviously slashy to me (and this was back when it was first airing) that I felt like it was an "I'm the wrong audience" problem, because normally the idea of corporate sponsored superheroes really appeals to me.
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Super_M



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capt_bunny wrote:
I don't see why people think superheroes are for men.

https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/38709/nycc-insider-sessions-powered-icv2-a-demographic-snapshot-comics-buyers
Superhero buyers skew heavily male (78%)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-22/the-tv-superhero-glut-might-not-be-totally-invincible
Mark Pedowitz, the CW’s president, said superhero shows have brought the network, whose audience was once 70 percent skewed toward women, a now equal share of male viewers.
Superhero shows in general attract a young, male audience
meruru wrote:
Even if it wasn't intentionally made for fujoushi, that's the audience they ended up with, so it just seems to me sad that the Hollywood adaptation will almost certainly not be made with that audience in mind, and I'm not even a fujoushi at all.

Yes that sad, Hollywood definitly pander more men than women especially with blockbusters.

Sorry for my bad english.
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I expect that Barnaby will be cast as female because the usual superhero audience doesn’t want to see a man’s superhero identity as Bunny. And because there might be extra criticism if women aren’t an equal part to the hero team, which would either mean making Bunny a woman or giving Rose a more central role to the story.
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meruru



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:20 pm Reply with quote
Cutiebunny wrote:
I expect that Barnaby will be cast as female because the usual superhero audience doesn’t want to see a man’s superhero identity as Bunny.


Yeah, true. Or it'll be Tiger and some other manly animal. Bull maybe. That starts with b. Those aren't bunny ears! They're horns, I swear.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:36 pm Reply with quote
This is one of the few anime that don’t need to be bogged down by “whitewashing”controversies, but with all the pc-ness going around in Hollywood, the plot will most likely look like this:
Barnaby will most likely be black,( even though there is already a black character, but since he’s flamboyant , they might make him another race or not flamboyant) Karina (blue rose) will either not have a crush on Tiger since she’s a teenager or she’ll be aged and the definate wild card will be if they’ll keep Kotetsu Asian. I mean Rush Hour worked back in the day, before the world was so PC-centric, maybe they will keeping him Asian.

All in all though if there’s a way to f*ck sh*t up Hollywood will find the way to do so
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:31 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
Yippie, the guy behind the awful Lost in Space movie.


Wow, somebody remembered Akiva Goldsman for Lost in Space and not Batman & Robin? Usually it's the other way around.
(It's the car. Chicks dig the car.)

And betting pool's open for the first US announcement of the project that tells us it's based on, quote, "the hit manga title." No US anime movie is ever based on an anime, you know.
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Zeino



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:33 pm Reply with quote
Beatdigga wrote:
Yippie, the guy behind the awful Lost in Space movie.

More to the point, Batman and Robin which is still the gold standard of what to avoid doing as a Super Hero film. So yeah, Tiger and Bunny is definitely not in safe hands here if this really does get made.
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